David Wolf

The Power and Currency of Relationship in Business

 More than any force in small business, the relationships you build and have are paramount. The concept of relationship capital, what it is, what it is not, and how it is emerging as a valuable, measurable asset on the proverbial smallbiz balance sheet has been put on my radar, thanks to a couple of Smallbiz Brain interviews recently conducted on the subject.

 The majority of people endaged in small business endeavors are human (at least most of us) which means we have a set of needs emotionally, professionally and otherwise; natural cuases of nature that cannot be denied. What I'm observing is that for many years business people and professionals have sensed, known or intuitive performed professionally with the matter of relationships a natural extension and presumption of the sales or networking process.

Now, seem to be finding a language for the connectiveness to our contacts, associates, friends and ths like. Web 2.0 social networking platforms like Linked In, Facebook and so forth have helped to identfiy such relationships as capital--a currency that is not on the balance sheet, but very real, and very important to success.

My interview with Dr. Ivan Misner unpacks who his simple quest for new contacts some 20 years ago ultimately created a word-of-mouth business networking industry with his innovation that began as a simple networking group and ultimately transformed itself into a multi-million dollar international organizaion called BNI.

http://www.bni.com/

For an insight as to how this leader thinks about relationship capital, here are some excerpts from my interview with Dr. Ivan Misner on the Smallbiz Brain Podcast Series:

 Dr. Ivan Misner:

I think BNI is really a classic example of necessity being the mother of invention.  I put together friends of mine, people I knew and trusted and they knew and trusted me and we agreed to refer each other.  And we started doing that and someone came who couldn’t join, because at BNI we take only one person per flavor – so there’s one lawyer, one banker, one chiropractor, one travel agent – and someone came who couldn’t join and she asked if I’d help her open up a second group.  And I said, “Yeah sure, I can do two of these plus my consulting practice.”

 We opened up a second group and we had two people come to that group who couldn’t join, right at the very first meeting and they asked me if I’d help them open up their own group.  I said okay and then we had three people come to those two groups that couldn’t join and it just snowballed.

 In a year we had twenty groups and I realized that I had struck a chord in the business community that I hadn’t expected.  I kind of thought everybody had this networking thing and referral marketing thing worked out and I discovered that they really didn’t.  This helped business people generate business through referrals.

David Wolf:

Now, along the journey, were there any particular surprises you encountered or things along the way that you didn’t expect? 

Ivan Misner:

 Wow, there’s so many it’s hard to narrow it down to just a few.  I think one would be it’s really funny how everyone thinks they are so different.  And forget about other countries; let’s start with the United States.  I opened up in Southern California.  The first chapter was in Arcadia and the fourth chapter was in the San Fernando Valley.  If you don’t know Southern California, that’s 30 minutes apart.  Maybe two days if you’re driving during rush hour traffic.  It’s really only 30 miles or so apart.  And to have people say, “Oh no, no Ivan, something like that wouldn’t work here in the San Fernando Valley” was a real eye opener to me.  To be so close and have people saying, “No, no, we’re different here.” 

 And then of course, as you start to open up in different states, you really get that we’re different mentality.  And what I had to work through and what I didn’t fully understand then was that our similarities are far greater than our dissimilarities and that oftentimes, people use the weird-different answer or comment as a way of just saying, “I don’t want to do the hard work necessary to do what you want.”

David Wolf:

 

Now the BNI model itself, it took some time and some trial and error to sort of hone in on and bracket so that it was working.  Can you speak a little about what that process was like and what you finally ended up with in what we’ll call the mature version of the BNI model?

Ivan Misner:

You know, I really think in a lot of ways we created an industry.  We really practiced a lot of different things to see what would work or what wouldn’t work – simple things like, you know, just the structure of the meeting and what should go first and what should go second.

For example, we used to have visitors be the first people to stand because we thought we were being gracious, you know, they’re a visitor of the meeting, so let’s let them stand and do a sixty second introduction.  Well, we found out pretty quickly that it was like deer in the headlights.  They had no idea of what they were supposed to do.  Networking groups back in the mid 80’s were pretty new and a lot of people didn’t understand how they worked and were really uncomfortable having to stand and do a sixty second introduction.

With a lot of our groups, we tried meeting every other week instead of every week and we discovered early on that groups that met every other week passed exactly 52% less referrals than the group that were meeting every week.  Having regular meetings substantially increased the amount of referrals that one gets.  It’s kind of like getting a haircut over the phone – it doesn’t quite work.  In referrals, you’ve got to be there to build the relationship and get the referrals.

 

David Wolf:

 I know this is somewhat of an obvious question, but if you don’t mind – why does word of mouth work?

 Ivan Misner:

 Word of mouth works because it’s all about the third party testimonial, the third party endorsement.  Just take a look at advertising – radio advertising.  Some of the most powerful radio ads are ads where somebody’s standing up and saying, “I use Joe’s Autobody – he was great and he was inexpensive and I can trust Joe and you can trust Joe.”  That kind of third party testimonial is powerful.

 It’s also dangerous and that’s why referrals really have to be based on relationships.  It’s dangerous because when you give a referral, you give a little bit of your reputation away.  If you give a bad referral, it hurts your reputation.  If you give a good referral, it helps your reputation.  So when you’re giving referrals and the people do a good job, it’s great for business because people are more inclined to accept that referral than they are anything else.

 

David Wolf--Closing this entry... 

 I'll continue more from Ivan's interview in future blog postings. Plus, I have discussed this subject with Adam Kovitz, the founder of the international publication, the National Networker. ADam has become an expert on the subject of relationship capital, and I'll include segments from his interview in future postings as well.

 Till then...

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

  

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About David Wolf

David Wolf is a music composer, audio producer, talk show host and the creator of "The Smallbiz Brain", a radio show-podcast featuring interviews with big thinkers in small business. The series is distributed via RSS and on Smallbiz America Webradio with listeners in more than 80 countries internationally and coast to coast in the USA. Wolf has produced audio over a 22 year span in radio, TV and film for clients such as McDonald's, American Airlines, Pepsi, Exxon, Chick E Cheese, Rent A Center, Frito-Lay, Texas Instruments, Southwest Airlines, Ambin Entertainment, Hit Entertainlment, TNT, Discovery Channel and many more. In 2004 Wolf created Smallbiz America, a syndicated radio series and community for Small Business Owners. Today, he is developing and producing content for SBTV.com--a multi-platform destination that provides small business people news and information to help them succeed in business.
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